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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.02.14 17:10:21 -
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This new focus on AI, PvE content is frightening me ... do you guys even think before requesting new improved AI NPC which pose a threat to players? What I learned in the last couple of months, only a minority does PvE for fun only.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3457
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Posted - 2017.02.14 21:52:38 -
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Malcanis wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:This new focus on AI, PvE content is frightening me ... do you guys even think before requesting new improved AI NPC which pose a threat to players? What I learned in the last couple of months, only a minority does PvE for fun only. Because EVE PvE is not intrinsically fun. If it were, more people might look for it to be. The moment shooting rats in EvE becomes intrinsically fun, it end's to be a PvP game.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3461
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Posted - 2017.02.15 16:38:47 -
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Good NPE is important, I didn't try the current version yet, so can't judge about.
My comment above was about that CCP has to put theme park like resources in making PVE intrinsically fun, including new content, stories every patch... also people are lazy, if the reward does not scale with the effort/risk, people will just do it in secure space for fun or don't do it at all because other stuff gives more ISK/h. Hence scaling the risk and complexity (aka "fun"), requires to scale the reward as well, which leads to balancing issues. See the new clever mining NPCs, only few bother, the reward does not justify the effort and risk. The drifter incursions are a second example, first people found clever strategies and the reward was too high, and when it was cut back, nobody bothered to run them anymore.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3461
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Posted - 2017.02.15 19:14:30 -
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But why do you do PvE? What is your motivation? Would you still do it, when it's more exciting, but without any valuable reward for the time spent?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3461
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Posted - 2017.02.15 22:12:45 -
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March rabbit wrote: I believe exploration is a perfect example of properly done PvE. It is totally PvE but to find it people go for low-sec and 0.0-space and even wormholes providing PvP.
Yes, it's nice, but I would not call it PvE as it has more PvP elements, and exploration is ISK neutral. Other than rat bounties, mission / incursion payouts, which are faucets.
But also here you see clearly that not many do it just for fun ... only few bother with data sites, why? Because the reward is bad.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3461
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Posted - 2017.02.16 14:22:02 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote: PI is good example, it may bring a lot of reward (ISK) but did you ever do it?
I do and have a nice 5 planet setup in Nullsec doing R0->P2 with minimal maintenance effort.
My personal challenge and fun is to come out ahead in all kind of competitive situations using only one char, which also includes getting same/more while spending significantly less effort than others. Incursions are an example of an activity I tried and won't touch again ... it's tedious, attention consuming and gives not enough reward compared to what I can get by just chilling in Perimeter. What I liked was the in-official challenge to get hands on the Elite Drone AI chips when the price spiked, so I ran a lot of missions to get as much agents as possible locked into the specific mission to farm them for a week.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3466
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Posted - 2017.02.18 14:54:16 -
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We don't know what resources are consumed by "NDA stuff" or other CCP projects, but I also get the impression that EvE development atm lacks of skilled resources, in both areas, creativity and coding.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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